The only way that this could make sense is if Tobi/Madara = Obito. When Obito first comes into contact with Madara, he refers to him as his precious forefather. However, Itachi's loyalty was not towards his clan, but towards the village, and wanted to do what was best for Konohagakure. -Madara Uchiha. Where is it shown that Madara's an immortal only alive through resurrected bodies [insert: Pein]? You are using an out of date browser. "Uchiha Madara is nothing compared to his formal self". It may not display this or other websites correctly. 真実­ (Shinjitsu) Arc So we all know that both Uchihas became the ten tails jinchuriki, but I was a bit confused as to how each of them used their new sage powers after having the ten tails absorbed into them. -Madara Uchiha. On his way to the battle site, Obito has a vision of Rin through his empty eye-socket but ignores it. Well I believe two conclusions could possilbe be drawn from this. If Itachi had not spared his younger brother and had not massacred the Uchiha clan, his brother never would have gained his powers or been able to aid Naruto in defeating Madara and Obito. As he left the genjutsu Obito's fists clenched crumpling the paper in his hand. 3. "Sign" earthsoul Member. "Truth" (真実 Shinjitsu) is episode 141 of the Naruto: Shippūden anime. I just don't want Madara setting up this because that'd be the laziest thing Kishi has ever done. And on the flip side, Obito dying just after activating a two-tomoe Sharingan is no where close to what Madara himself has achieved. "It Was You" a. Tobi being madara, tobi being obito or is both. Episode 76% Upvoted. Sasuke refuses to accept Madara's story, claiming that Itachi had murdered their clan to test the limits of his abilities, that he was nothing more than a criminal who joined the Akatsuki, and that Itachi had no reason to protect him, citing that Itachi would not have used his Mangekyō Sharingan against him if he was not trying to kill him. didnt he say that would sasuke learn mangekyou, than there would be three? r/Naruto: Everything related to the Naruto and Boruto series goes here. Seems like it was a pretty important episode :/ I think it happened right after the fight with Danzo . Madara tells Obito he will properly thank him in the future, and that Obito will return to him. After Sasuke beats Itachi, Tobi tells Sasuke “the truth” and refers to himself as Madara. this eases up naruto's pain and bewilderment about sasuke's actions. madara tells naruto the true story of itachi. Also, Obito knew that Kakashi would never hurt Rin. he's calm and ok after that. Why does he want "Sasuke" to capture the eight tails and why cant he do it himself ? He arrives just in time to realize that Kakashi has run his Chidori through Rin's chest although Rin manages to say Kakashi's name before hitting the ground, dead. True its not certain that he knew.. but what he said was enough to assume he knew.. or at least thought kakashi had it.. Did Itachi actually realise? He also stated that Madara/Tobi was one of them. Madara also divulges that following the Konoha Crush, Itachi's true motive for returning to the village was to make sure that Sasuke would be kept safe from the likes of Danzō following the Third's death, and that he was also spying on the Akatsuki from within for Konoha's sake. This is what i've been trying to say the whole time. However, while Itachi had managed to murder his father, his mother, and his lover, he was unable to kill his little brother, and thus had spared Sasuke's life. Naruto Chapter #400, Naruto Chapter #401, Naruto Chapter #402 Get over with the obito crap thread. he's calm and ok after that. In Obito's version Izuna gave his eyes willingly (but was still implied to be murdered by Madara). Gentz you're right.. its not enough to prove it.. but enough to give it more credibility. He also became a close friend of Rin Nohara, whom he eventually fell in love with. The first part is correct, but it is unclear whether or not Obito is a direct descendant of Madara. -Madara Uchiha. i wanna know if Madara is really telling the truth to sasuke, cuz he says that Itachi killed the whole clan Uchiha by orders of Konoha, also he says that the Sharingans users are the only one that can hide. I know that Sasuke, Tobi, Madara, The 3rd Hokage and his 3 old advisers including Danzou know the truth about Itachi, as to why he murdered his own clan barring Sasuke. And conveniantly its the opposite eye to kakashi. Archived. Basically the Seven Deadly Sins switch places with Team Naruto and the Ninja Alliance in the fight against Madara and Obito. Madara tells Obito he will properly thank him in the future, and that Obito will return to him. 0. Kakashi has MS. Itachi stated prior to seeing kakashi's MS and after seeing kakashi's MS that there are three MS users. He didn't blame Kakashi for killing Rin, but rather for "letting her die" and not being able to keep his promise. hide. Skipped it while I was binge watching last year cuz I thought it was filler. This thread is archived. Then, when Tobi appeared, I got mad trying to guess who in hell could use MS. Perhaps Kakashi doesn?t count (in effects yes, but not controlling Kyuubi because he does not have Uchiha blood. The only way that this could make sense is if Tobi/Madara = Obito. End Genjutsu . Also, did he know that it was Obito who released the kyuubi? In order to aid in his coup, Fugaku had Itachi placed within the Anbu so he would serve as a spy for them. If so, Madara would have to be Obito's great grandfather at the most. -Madara is not actually Marara, it was all a bluff to throw the shinobi world into a war - he is working for Madara however.-This Madara is actually (SUPER SPOILER)Obito(SUPER SPOILER) and was saved by Madara. His body in the fight was destroyed but his essence or soul lived on. In Itachi's version Madara straight up murders Izuna. Although you could also talk about the ingredient too. So as we all should know. Sorry, you should explain this theory of yours much deeper. Summary. Even if Madara was behind it, Obito found out the truth during his time in Mist. There's not enough evidence to claim he knows. Madara tells Sasuke that around that time, he had infiltrated Konoha in order to have his vengeance on the village itself as well as the Uchiha clan who had shunned him. It could be, but I still think Tazuna has the MS. Kabuto obviously knew Tobi wasn't Madara at the point, hence "Oh you call yourself Madara" line and was being a wise guy by calling him Madara anyway. Obito grew up not knowing who his parents were; in the anime, he was left in the care of his grandmother. STUPID THREAD! In Naruto Manga 386 Itachi Tells Sasuke the story of Madara Uchiha and his fight with the Hashirama(AKA The First Hokage). And then what is the whole point of the summit ? The one behind Madara frowned, confused. Help finding the episode where Tobi tells Sasuke the truth about Itachi? By: NPwall. madara tells naruto the true story of itachi. Spoilers ahead — For Obito, Kakashi was a victim just as Rin was. However, he was pretty disappointed that Kakashi wasn't able to protect Rin like he promised. Plus there prov diff MS stages of lvl. “The seal activated before I could let you know what was happening. What is the song that play when Madara(Obito)tells Sasuke the truth about Itachi? But if he knew it was Obito,or Tobi, a member of the Akatsuki, why didn't he tell it to Sasuke, or Konoha? Manga report. it was just horrible to see him suffer like that, thinking whether sasuke's become a 'common criminal' working for the akatsuki. Summary. That scroll I gave you connected you to the seal. If not, Madara is probably a great great uncle or distant cousin to Obito. Madara reveals to Sasuke that Itachi's goal, other than implanting the Amaterasu within Sasuke, was to seal away Orochimaru as well as Sasuke's Cursed Seal of Heaven, a feat that was only capable if he had reduced Sasuke's chakra levels to their bare minimum. Watch as Obito tries to fix his wrongs by helping a certain blonde haired young ninja. Obito hated Itachi, and so made Itachi look bad. Im Verlaufe des dritten Shinobi-Weltkrieges wird er schwer verletzt und vom echten Madara … We know Itachi didn't tell Sasuke the truth because he was afraid that Sasuke would seek revenge on the village. i wanna know if Madara is really telling the truth to sasuke, cuz he says that Itachi killed the whole clan Uchiha by orders of Konoha, also he says that the Sharingans users are the only one that can report. Next Afterwards, Madara outlines his plan to become the Ten-Tails' Jinchūriki to Obito. So uhh I know most ppl will b hatin on me for even bringin this old theory up again, but everyone just hear me out. He also tells the story of the Uchihas from Madara’s POV. So by defeating and avenging the Uchiha Clan you would be acclaimed as a hero in Konoha. But Obito also hated Madara (although also impersonating him), so his version of events is a bit nicer but still bad. it was just horrible to see him suffer like that, thinking whether sasuke's become a 'common criminal' working for the akatsuki. Naruto: Shippūden #141 (Watch Online) In Genjutsu: "Did it go as planed" asked, Madara Uchiha "Yes, he saw the girl get killed by her own teammate" replied Zetsu . Kakashi has MS. Itachi stated prior to seeing kakashi's MS and after seeing kakashi's MS that there are three MS users. English As Madara finishes his tale, Sasuke stands on a cliff, noticing at a hawk flying around. maximilyan, how are you proving that Itachi knew? Opening well if madara used obito as a container aka oro, for a fresh sharingan without the blindness maybe the tobi=obito thoery still exist. The Truth is Uchiha *Madara is using Obito's body. The Ten-Tails launch a barrage of wooden spikes to kill some ninjas, including Neji who saves Naruto. 30. I guessed, pre-timeskip, that the ones able to use MS were Itachi, Kakashi ans Sasuke (potentially, not actually using it). It cant get any easier than that. If Obito tries to ghost Madara and BFR him its more likely he eats a Susanoo blade when he solidifies to try the warp than succeeding in BFRing Madara. -Madara Uchiha. Close. i think its great that he got to hear it. Episode data After Sasuke beats Itachi, Tobi tells Sasuke “the truth” and refers to himself as Madara. He also hadn’t tried to hide it so Obito had not been able to figure out if it was important or not. Following the clan's massacre, Madara and Itachi had split their ways while Itachi, reporting the mission's success to the village, had left Konoha; however, he had asked the Third Hokage to keep Sasuke safe from harm and threatened to leak the village's intelligence to unallied nations otherwise. at that time he was already well aged and only getting older this was during the reign of the first hokage. From what I could find from googling however, Tobi has always Obito never Madara, so why does he do this? Sometimes falling back is the best way to achieve happiness and love. "Obito and Madara" (オビトとマダラ, Obito to Madara) is chapter 601 of the original Naruto manga. It's not a bad one, but it is still an assumption. He enrolled in the Academy to help him achieve that goal, where he developed a one-sided rivalry with Kakashi Hatake, whose natural talent and popularity he was jealous of. Fated Battle Between Brothers FFS let the guy rest. He was pulled into a genjutsu. Obito Uchiha (Japanese: うちは オビト, Hepburn: Uchiha Obito), also known by his alias Tobi (トビ), is a character in Masashi Kishimoto's manga Naruto.He is first introduced in a "Kakashi Chronicle" sidestory as a child soldier who sacrifices himself to save his friends (Kakashi Hatake and Rin Nohara, led by Minato Namikaze) from a rival group of ninjas. Both leave each other alone after that (the actual physical threats to each other) and Itachi later calls 'Madara' a shell of his former self in his convo with Sasuke. He then declares that he is renaming their team from Hebi to Taka, and that their new mission is to destroy Konohagakure, awakening his own Mangekyō Sharingan in the process. obito appears later on with minato who ends up being the the fourth hokage. On his way to the battle site, Obito has a vision of Rin through his empty eye-socket but ignores it. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. That he knew Kakashi had gained the Mangekyō is an assumption. Previous Follow/Fav The Truth. Madara Tells Obito The Truth About What Really Happened To Rin - Naruto Shippuden English Subbed #NARUTO #NARUTOSHIPPUDEN #MADARA Of course, Madara wouldn’t tell him the truth. "Fate" There are literally half a dozen things Susanoo does to stop Obito from achieving that goal even ignoring its offensive abilities. JavaScript is disabled. Obito went by the name Tobi after resurfacing prior to the Fourth Shinobi World War. The explosion destroys the headquarters, killing Shikaku and Inoichi. Close. Saying that even though Madara lost the fight for control his Eyes and Power remained alive and well. He also stated that Madara/Tobi was one of them. Now if Itachi did see the fake 'Madara's' face...lol he should atleast know they aren't the same even if he wouldn't know Uncle Obito from a … But if he knew it was Obito,or Tobi, a member of the Akatsuki, why didn't he tell it to Sasuke, or Konoha? Obito scoffed. If Itachi had not spared his younger brother and had not massacred the Uchiha clan, his brother never would have gained his powers or been able to aid Naruto in defeating Madara and Obito. Itachi clearly knew that Obito was the true leader of the Akatsuki, and he also knew of and feared Obito's (Sharingan) abilities, hence placing his own Mangekyo Sharingan on Sasuke and setting it so that Amaterasu activated when in the vicinity of Obito's Sharingan. This war saw all the Five Great Nations join forces for the first time in history against a common threat. When Itachi was four, he had witnessed the deaths of many during the Third Shinobi World War, and thus developed a pacifist nature. Madara Tells Obito The Truth About What Really Happened To Rin - Naruto Shippuden English Subbed #NARUTO #NARUTOSHIPPUDEN #MADARA As Madara arrived on the battlefield, Naruto, Kakashi, Guy and B were all shocked to see the legendary shinobi before them, leading them to wonder what had happened to the Kage.As Madara and Obito casually carried on their conversation, Madara noted that the Naruto in front of … During his time of Obito being with Madara, the White Zetsus told him that Rin and "Stupid Kakashi" were in trouble. Obito hated Itachi, and so made Itachi look bad. Obito Uchiha is one of Naruto's most notorious villains and arguably among the oldest.Having fought against the Leaf even before Uzumaki's birth, the tragedy he suffered after being crushed under a boulder transformed him into a force of nature - and a perfect weapon at Madara Uchiha's disposal.. RELATED: Naruto: 10 Things You Missed In The Fourth Great Ninja War I’m confused . Madara was not in the habit of sharing many things with Obito. Skipped it while I was binge watching last year cuz I thought it was filler. He also hadn’t tried to hide it so Obito had not been able to figure out if it was important or not. Itachi seek obito/tobi out but because madara was the only one with known secrets of their clan that died outside of the uchiha clan that's why he thought it could only be him and really nobody would I have thought of obito. October 09, 2012 As Madara arrived on the battlefield, Naruto, Kakashi, Guy and B were all shocked to see the legendary shinobi before them, leading them to wonder what had happened to the Kage.As Madara and Obito casually carried on their conversation, Madara noted that the Naruto in front of … Thus, the Konoha Council and Danzō Shimura had exploited that trait and had Itachi spy on the Uchiha clan for them. We know Itachi didn't tell Sasuke the truth because he was afraid that Sasuke would seek revenge on the village. Obito Uchiha, who is commonly referred to by his alias of Tobi and formerly identified as Madara Uchiha, is a childhood friend of Kakashi Hatake and was presumed to have died years ago, but somehow survived and became a criminal. When the Third Hokage was unable to come to a peaceful negotiation with the Uchiha clan, the elders decided to eliminate them. So, I still fail to see where the pieces fit to complete this Madara=Obito theory... - Itachi doesn't know that Kakashi has the MS. Madara and Obito's Jyubi Jinchuriki forms. i think its great that he got to hear it. 2. 67% Upvoted. 10 Obito’s Mask. What if Obito found out that Madara was the one who got Rin killed. save. Battle Rules. Itachi stated Madara is very much alive, so possessing a deceased Obito is out of the question. , but it is unclear whether or not whether or not was unable to come to a negotiation. Echten Madara … Obito hated Itachi, Tobi tells Sasuke the truth during his of. 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